Once Upon a Time: A Shepherd Takes on a Hero’s Job

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I believe in fairytales. I always have, always will. I love the whole sweeping nature of them, the way it’s another world and while many original versions are pretty dark and disturbing, the truths don’t change. Good beats bad in the end, though good may suffer a lot to get their victory. The concept of manners, solid work ethics, loyalty, and compassion are prevalent throughout these stories. I’ll confess to loving the Prince Charmings of the world as well. Granted, I like a princess who can kick some ass (which I learned can be real when I was nine and read about Cimorene) so I’m loving this version of Snow White. But I really do love Prince Charming. I love that the Prince in the fairytales, both old and Disney-fied, have to wait for the princess to agree to ride off with them into the sunset. And I love the idea that there are people in the world who can fall madly and passionately in love with one another and create an epic love story. So when I heard tonight’s story would give us Prince Charming’s background and that the man who portrays him (Josh Dallas) would be live-tweeting through the episode, I was ecstatic.

First let’s talk about the writing. The actors did phenomenally, but could this episode be any more ripped off?! Setting aside the blatant David and Goliath rip-off (which yes, I get has been used in multiple stories and is practically a cliche in stories today but still, doing it that directly is ridiculous), the whole “I Will Always Find You” because he’s a shepherd and always find that lost sheep/always find Snow White is just…well, actually I’m torn. See, to me, there are these stories and parables that I’ve grown up with through church so the comparisons seem endlessly obvious. But now I’m writing it out and I’m realizing that a lot of you probably aren’t familiar with these Bible stories like I am so it maybe it is more clever than I’m giving the writers credit for. Y’all tell me in the comments.*

That said though, I love the way the writers are blending all of the stories together. Each new piece we learn may set up more questions but it also weaves in answers and that I appreciate. Mad props to Andrew Chambliss for writing this episode on that aspect because the little details were brilliant. It was the big stuff that bothered me.

I also love that David/James, Snow/Mary & Emma have good values and motives. They are all trying to do the honorable thing in life. It makes me love them so much more. And damn, Ginnifer Goodwin & Jennifer Morrison are fabulous together. Also, while it sucks that David/James chose Kathryn for now, it honestly makes him more deserving of Mary/Snow in the future. She wouldn’t accept less than an honorable man and he needs her to be the same. It’s so true to fairytales and it makes it so much more delightful to watch.

I’m writing this intro after an initial viewing because I think first impressions matter. I’ll be rewatching in a few minutes to get a thorough recap for y’all but I like to do an intro after the first go-round. My thoughts might change a bit but I feel like this adds a level of honesty. And my initial opinion is that while I do like the episode, I wasn’t blown away by the story itself. The cast is wonderful and I was invested in their emotions, but unlike a lot of people on Twitter tonight, I wasn’t constantly shocked by these reveals. I certainly didn’t see them coming but it just was like oh okay, whatever. Maybe I watch so much television that it’s hard to shock me anymore but that’s how I feel. So with that in mind, let’s get into the episode and learn about Prince John-David-James-Nolan-Doe-Charming. There’s a fucking identity crisis for ya.

Storybrooke:

We open on Kathryn/David’s house (I’m only calling him David here because he’s with her) and they head into the house for a Welcome Home party. And I’m calling complete bullshit on the doctor thinking this is a good idea. I can’t imagine that it would be healthy for an amnesiac to be inundated with people so soon after coming out of a coma. Henry meanwhile is sure that the amnesia is why James/David isn’t full of Storybrooke memories—it’s blocking the Queen’s curse. Henry’s theory sounds good to me. Amnesia is perfect as a reason that the curse doesn’t work as well as it should on him. Plus, I adore how smug Henry is about the whole thing. Emma’s like, “how would this work?” and Henry’s all “it woke him up, don’t be trippin’ Mom.” Fucking priceless.

Anyway, the important part of this is that he uses a toothpick to spear a carrot (who does that) and clearly remembers some of his swordsmanship training and has a moment with his daughter and grandson. Seriously y’all, how trippy is that? Like, right now, you have all of these equals who either don’t know about or are indulging the whims of a ten-year-old boy. But imagine when they do get those memories? Or for that matter, how intense must this be for Henry, who believes in all of these stories, doesn’t really have a father figure in his life, and gets to meet his grandfather for the first time, as a guy the same age (or possibly younger) than his mom? The Oedipal complexes of this show are awesome.

Then in a nice scene, we get Regina talking to Kathryn. Obviously, Regina is doing this to hold onto her curse but you can tell she has a bit of an emotional reaction to realizing that Kathryn sees her as a friend. It’s sweet and twisted.

David/James snuck out of the house to go find Mary Margaret and in a bit of kick-ass awesomeness leaps the fence in a single bound before hanging a birdhouse for her. (Apparently Josh got a lot of practice jumping fences in Kentucky. I thought that was a horse thing but who knows what really goes on in Kentucky). He’s like “Come on, don’t tell me this is all one-sided” and I fucking melt because he does this perfect little knee bend like he’s just begging for a crumb of affection and then Mary Margaret responds with “You’re married, it should be no-sided” and my heart keeps breaking  because she’s right and her actions are everything I love about fairytales and all my favorite couples are the honorable ones but part of me just wants them to just kiss under the starlight. AND WE ARE SIX EPISODES IN. DAMN THIS SHOW.

Mary Margaret is doing dishes and freaking out and Emma’s like, you need to stop cleaning and have a drink. So true. Scotch > ScotchBrite. Emma pours delightfully full glasses too. Love her.

Back at David/James’ he’s going through pictures and trying to find a memory. Kathryn’s like, “I’m going to bed, will you come with me?” and he’s like “go to bed, sleep or go to bed, sex?” She’s open to either and tries kissing him but he says this isn’t right and breaks off the kiss. Though he does spend a moment apparently trying to see if it can work with seems like a kind thing to do for Kathryn.

I adore the fact that Mary Margaret completely forgot that Uncle Daddy Snark didn’t call her after their date. That’s all I have to say about him. Regina however comes in to be confrontational and tells Mary Margaret to back off. She’s adamant that she did nothing and Regina tells her that David/James left Kathryn. Regina insists that Mary Margaret should stay away and not wreck multiple lives and then takes off. So fun.

David/James is hanging out in the doorway looking fucking fine in a Henley/plaid shirt (and I have a debate on that down below) and tells Mary Margaret that he wants her. She tells him to go and he says to meet him at the bridge where she found him. David/James is like if you choose this, if you choose us, you’ll know where I’ll be and ya’ll that smile is going to be the death of me. Mary Margaret is very confused but turns back to her class as he leaves.

Emma is at the police station and groaning because Graham is asking her to work tonight since he volunteers at an animal shelter and has to feed the dogs. Emma agrees to the shift, but only because he brought her a bear claw. I want coffee and a bear claw. Mary Margaret comes in to the station spazzing again and Graham says “I’ll just go patrol my office” and y’all I just died laughing. Jamie Dornan’s delivery of that line was so perfect. Mary Margaret is like, “what do I do?!” and Emma’s all, “go for it.” She points out (quite rightly) that David/James made a choice, not a mere comment and that now Mary Margaret should do what she feels is right. MM can’t quite believe what’s happening and Emma’s like, “do it, get yours and screw Regina in the process!”

David/James is in his house in an awful room with the worst decorating taste ever, fiddling with his wedding ring and gazing out the window thinking, “I should be conflicted but I’m not so I’ll just stare all broody for a second.” He then starts walking and Regina finds him and asks if he’d consider changing his mind. He insists that he can’t change how he feels. She gives him bullshit directions and then tells him she hopes he finds what he’s looking for. Mary Margaret is waiting just below the bridge under the moonlight and David/James walks past Mr. Gold’s to discover Regina gave him the wrong direction. He walks into Mr. Gold’s shop and pauses at the “charming” unicorn mobile. Mr. Gold tells him that Regina told him the wrong directions and gives him the right one. But clearly Regina’s entire point was to get David/James into the shop to see the windmill that used to be on his front lawn. As David/James spins the windmill, his memory comes back. Oh that windmill is dangerous. I wonder what was traded to Stiltsie for that to get its power.

Mary Margaret spins her ring and waits and then David/James shows up. He’s surprised and almost disappointed that she is there and he tells her that he remembers everything. He says that he has these crazy unexplainably intense feelings for Mary Margaret, but that he knows he needs to do the right thing and give the relationship with his wife a chance. Mary Margaret walks away with tears in her eyes and I’ve got tears and I just don’t understand how this show can make me feel this way after six episodes. SIX!

Emma is out on patrol when she sees someone sneaking out of the Mayor’s house and like a BAMF takes him down with her baton. Which only leads her to discover Graham is sleeping with Regina, and Emma just wishes she could be Henry and not know about this disgusting bit of information. She informs him that she doesn’t work nights and walks away, visibly upset.

David returns to Kathryn’s and says he remembers. She almost looks pretty in this moment. He says that he wasn’t planning on leaving but just wanted to have time to work things out and—due to the accident and subsequent hospital stay—got a lot of time. He apologizes and asks to work on it. I’m a hardcore Snow/Charming/Mary/David fan, but I do like this further development with Kathryn. Abigail still comes across as a complete bitch, but Kathryn seems like maybe she does love him. I’m still very wary of her but I would like it to be that way, and not that she’s pretending because it adds more depth to the story.

Mary Margaret is softly crying in the diner that I swear looks like a thing out of Pleasantville when Dr. Daddy Sark comes in and says she might as well talk since she doesn’t give a shit what he thinks anyway. So she basically says she does the predictable thing in life and is now punishing herself and he tells her to do the unexpected. Then he offers to buy her a drink and she says to buy her two and just no. Ew, ew, ew.

Fairytale Realms:

So then we flash to Charming fighting some “brute” (his words, not mine) and just when the guy thinks he’s dead, Charming jumps up and kills that dude and is all, “next time make sure I’m dead.” Oh, Charming. Don’t taunt if you can’t follow through. Did Buffy teach you nothing? So Charming is now apparently qualified to kill a dragon for King Midas but as he’s giving a speech about not turning this into a party, the Orc/Man halfbreed stabs Charming and kills him. And we’re all left going, “Well that doesn’t make sense. How is he dead?”

I swear, that first scene just made me think that we’d somehow taken a wrong turn after the troll bridge and ended up in Mordor. Or maybe Mordor is what exists at the bottom of the troll bridge. I mean seriously, the Alvin & the Chipmunks preview had a better LOTR rip-off. Josh Dallas looked cool with the sword fighting and I greatly appreciate that the costume designer put the soldiers in armor that fits, but it would be nice to get the same green screen level work. C’mon ABC, fork out a little extra money for one of the highest rated shows on your network.

So what appears to be a lead knight is like, “dude we need a champion or we lose the kingdom because we have no money.” King Not!Charming is all, “how do I get my son back?” to Rumplestiltskin and he’s like, “I can save your kingdom but I want to know the whereabouts of the fairy godmother to get her wand.” Which explains how he was able to kill Cinderella’s fairy godmother and get her indebted to him. Stiltsie’s like, “dude, I can’t bring people back from the dead. It’s not a pretty picture. I don’t like doing it!” (Or the genie said it, whatever.) I still love the character of Stiltsie but I see what’s been meant about Robert Carlyle chewing scenery in this episode. It was just a little much in some scenes. Anywho, it turns out that the king and his wife couldn’t conceive, so Stiltsie got them a kid at a price and now he can fetch Charming’s TWIN BROTHER for the new price. I say twin brother like that because I know I’m supposed to be shocked but my brain just sort of took it in like, “okay that’s cool, so what’s his real story?” We get a teeny tiny flash of Westley a shepherd and my word that wig. The Vampire Diaries wishes they had the budget for a wig that good.

Then we really meet James (more on that later) who is a shepherd and finding his one missing sheep, bringing it back to the farm. His mother tries to tell him about a grain merchant’s daughter and James insists he won’t marry for anything but love. Rumplestiltskin shows up and is all well I can find a solution for the farm. James needs to pretend to be Prince Charming and help slay the dragon in King Midas’s realm, and then the king will take care of the farm and his mother. James is like, “I just don’t have a choice” but Stiltsie insists that there’s always a choice, it’s just a matter of making the right one.

So James isn’t really a Prince. No wonder he constantly insists on being called something other than Charming. He doesn’t like being identified with something he’s not. I heard a few comments over the internet that James’ name must not really be James, but I think y’all are missing the point. He’s playing the role of Prince Charming but James is the shepherd boy. So when he insists his name is James, it’s because it is. He isn’t Prince James Charming, he’s James, playing the role of Prince Charming. With that in mind, I’m going to call him James from here on out. (Am I the only one seeing it this way? That James is his real name?)

James is checking himself out in his shield and then one of the Knights Templar is all “you may have the title of hero but not the job.” Because his job is to stay back while the knights kill the dragon and just take the credit. James is confused but tries to make conversation with the knights left with him for a moment.  As soon as he hears screams, he runs in to save the knight and drags him away from the dragon’s lair. The dragon keeps coming but James tricks it into running into a tight canyon and chops off its head.  Y’all, I love a good dragon fight. And now I’m willing to forgive the Mordor scene because that green screen was perfect.

Back in the castle with the now golden dragon head, Midas is all, “Score!” and James whispers to King Charming that he wants to know when he can go home. Midas makes it clear that we need a hero! And not Shrek, in this case. Midas wants to bind their kingdoms together and brings out his daughter Abigail, saying he wants James to marry Abigail. I want to ask Abigail, why feathers? But she’s probably tell me they’re stapled on. (Um, in the original fairytale, Midas turned his daughter to gold. I hope that happens down the road. Because Abigail/Kathryn is a bitch. ) Anywho,  James starts to refuse but King Charming goes, “if you do I will kill your mother and burn that farm to ash,” so of course James accepts. Now here’s a tricky bit. Midas calls him Prince James, not Charming so this could throw my theory off. I still think James is his real name because I don’t think he would’ve made such a big deal about it to Snow later. And as we will see at the end, these things happen fairly close in time so it would still be an issue for him. I’m willing to believe two possibilities. Either Midas didn’t know the Prince’s name as anything but Charming until now (and Midas’s snotty attitude makes that believable) or both boys were named James which is also just as likely. Plus, Rumplestiltskin has a thing about names and he had a hand in both boys’ lives. Actually I’d bet good money on the latter. Stiltsie definitely influenced the name James. Also, the name James means “supplanter” and is a derivative of Jacob. Jacob is a Hebrew name from the biblical Jacob who took his brother’s birthright by pretending to be him after his brother was incapacitated. (In Jacob’s brother’s case it was from drinking too much to be clear.) Now James is taking his brother’s place and considering Stiltsie can see the future, yep he planted those names. This show kills me with its detail y’all. Absolutely kills me. Not to mention the whole name of David in Storybrooke, tying not only into the damn David the shepherd boy who slew the enemy bit, but also David means beloved, which he is by multiple people. Seriously, this show is brilliant at this naming stuff.

So James rides home on an actual white horse to greet his mother and explains all of the details of the deal they made and that to keep her safe, he can’t ever see her again. James’ mother is horrified and realizes the error of her ways and tells James that his freedom to choose is more important than anything. He says goodbye and his mother gives him her wedding ring (see, details!) and tells him that true love follows that ring. First I got teary-eyed in that scene and then I wanted to know the back story of James’ mom. And that ring is of course the one that we now know Mary Margaret has.

James and Abigail (who isn’t into changing her dress ever so girlfriend must smell like the most awful fucking body odor ever) head out from the castle and after a like 10 second goodbye, Kathryn is like I’m tired of waiting, let’s go. Bitch. They head out, planning to take the scenic route and King Charmin goes “smile, you’re on the road to true love” and we see Snow White waiting in the tree with a smile on her face.

Bits & Bobs:

I would say, keep in mind, what Rumplestiltskin said about not being able to raise people from the dead. Like that’s not going to come back into play later. (If you’ve been reading spoilers and are worried about next week or just watched that preview, I’d definitely remember this comment). Especially considering the fact that certain people are still tweeting from set.

I saw Aladdin’s lamp this time!

I noticed a few things on Tumblr when I was searching for gifs & pictures that made me go, “Where the hell did you get that cockamamie idea?” so let’s sort a few things out. Now obviously a show can still change things but based on tonight, here’s what we know. King Charming and his wife did not actually have any children of their own. They made a deal with Stiltsie to get a child and got one, Prince Charming. That Prince Charming’s son is the twin brother of James, who was born to a farming couple. The farm was doing poorly so the farm family made a deal with Stiltsie to save the farm, giving up one of the babies. James is the son that stayed on the farm, with his real parents. Now I don’t know if Rumplestiltskin did some truly impressive magical shit and got it to seem like the Queen actually gave birth to Charming or if they just faked it with a bed rest story but still, James is not that guy’s son. And before you say well the mom could be the Queen, do you really think she would be that obsessed with turning it all down, or that the farm would be failing again if she was really the Queen? No. James is the shepherd, Charming is the Prince, James is now pretending to be Charming.

*Okay, the rewatch made me like the dragon slaying more. I think I just haven’t watched or read a good quest story in so long that I forgot how prevalent it is in most stories. I do however stand by the fact that making him a shepherd who slew the fearsome GIANT dragon was pushing it. The slaying part however I can deal with.

JOSH DALLAS IN PLAID VS NICK WESCHLER IN PLAID. Let the battle begin.

Boys who lean are better. Just ask Angela Chase.

The smile.

See, he leans a little when he stands too.

And the smile.

 

Okay, so as always, I love, love, love comments even more than y’all love wallpapering your room with pictures of Prince Charming. Feel free to leave loads of comments short or long. I expect everyone to weigh in on the plaid shirt/slow smile battle as well. You can always feel free to say hi on twitter too (@onlymystory) if you’re one of those people who doesn’t like to comment.

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  • Bethany E. Larson

    Great review Melissa!

    I had really high hopes for this episode, as David/James is such a great character and Josh Dallas is so so good in the role. But I found the episode sort of boring. I think I wanted it to be more emotionally sweeping than it was. And the CGI, DEAR GOD. What the hell was happening there?

    HOWEVER, I adore Andrew Chambliss and thought he did some interesting things with plot details and the entire cast is just so freaking good at nuance that I can’t not love this show.

    And I’m about to say something that is going to SHOCK THE PANTS off of everyone: I think Josh Dallas wins the plaid off. (I KNOW.)

    ALSO! There has been a really heated back and forth between Fables fans about the Once Upon a Time writers stealing plots from the graphic novel. The creator of Fables, Bill Willingham, wrote a very classy essay about the whole thing that is def worth a read. http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=35737

  • http://honeyishrunkthegretchen.com Gretchen

    I AM FREAKING OUT ABOUT NEXT WEEK’S EPISODE AFTER WATCHING THE PROMO.

    Okay, deep breath. Turning off the caps lock. I agree that this episode wasn’t THE most exciting one ever, but any excuse to spend the majority of the time staring into Charming’s beautiful, anguished face. I also totally KNEW that it was going to happen, that MM & David being together in Storybrooke would never be that easy but… I still hoped in vain. And cried when Josh Dallas’ voice broke when he said he came to say goodbye to his mother. WAAAAH.

    Anyway, as for the allusions to next week’s episode… Omggggg. I think that the “we can’t raise people from the dead” thing is totally going to come back, and I’m freaking out because I worry that the Sheriff is going to the be one who dies! Y’know, because Regina will realize he remembers and… augh! Okay, unfounded theory time: The Evil Queen made all sorts of proclamations about how Snow White killed her love, or the man she loved, or whatever it was, and the promo for next week just confirms for me that Sheriff Graham is the hunter. So my theory is that the EQ was in love with the hunter, and she sent him out to kill Snow so she could eat her heart or whatever (Cannibalism. So hot right now.) Then Snow was like, “Hold up, homes, I’m an awesome human being, your woman is crazypants.” and he realized she was right, so he lied to the Queen about catching Snow and then when she found out she was so pissed that she killed him. But blamed Snow. Aaaand, I don’t really know where I’m going with this anymore, but I cannot WAIT for next week’s episode. Also, are we pretty much awesome Dr. Uncle Daddy is the BB Wolf? ‘Cause he certainly seems lecherous enough. Okay, enough geeking out. I LOVE THIS SHOW.

  • http://honeyishrunkthegretchen.com Gretchen

    That was a great article/essay/”interview”! Thanks for posting, Bethany. I really respect Bill Willingham for being so cool. I love Fables, and was very excited for this show BECAUSE of the comic. I agree that similarities between the two are inevitable (er, hello, they’re the same fairy tales) but the core of each story is different. Both can exist forever as far as I’m concerned!

  • http://onlymystory.wordpress.com/ Melissa

    I feel like all of the talk about this episode being David making a choice between Kathryn & Mary Margaret gave us all an impression of a very different episode than the one it actually was. I expected a very shippery episode and it wasn’t that. Also agreed, it was boring in parts. I think it could’ve been served better if it was spread it out or to minimize some of the Original Charming stuff because that dragged.

    The CGI wasn’t as horrific as the Ringer boat scene but it really was bad in spots. I just don’t understand how the dragon fighting scene can be so cool (Josh said online that it was all green screen and I never would have guessed that, it was so well done) but then the Mordor scenes were horrific. Same with inside the castle (good) then walking away with Kathryn (Terrible). And shouldn’t there be some sets for the castle at this point?

    I too adore Andrew Chambliss. I think the most frustrating part about the writing for me is that the small details, nuances and continuity are brilliant so when the David vs Goliath thing happened, it was so direct and so very unoriginal that I felt cheated. This show has some excellent writers and I expect more from them. Also, apparently Ian Goldberg (not on twitter) co-wrote the episode so I may just blame it on him.

    At the moment I’m going with Jack wins the flannel but James wins the smile. We’ll see if that changes. ;)

  • http://onlymystory.wordpress.com/ Melissa

    I too loved that article/interview! I think Fables fans definitely need to read it but so do fans of any form of entertainment. I especially loved his discussion of the way writers can read so much and then it all sort of simmers in the basement of your brain until it becomes its own story. And the writer may think its fairly original until they rediscover that story and see just where the information came from.
    Which actually makes me think that’s a perfect way to pinpoint my frustration with the writing of this episode. It didn’t feel like a quest/David-vs-Goliath inspired story. It felt like a lift straight out of the Bible/Aragorn’s autobiography. There was no sense of inspiration, just copycat.

    And while he didn’t give away who Sheriff Graham is (though i’m telling ya’ll, it’s the huntsman pure & simple),  he did confirm that Graham is not the Big Bad Wolf.

  • http://twitter.com/MollytheGhost Molly Kasperek

    First off, I loved the recap. Especially the Princess Bride reference. Nice! Moving on:

    The sheriff killed me all episode. First when he went to patrol his office and then after Emma dropped him and he was all adorable and sad and chastised saying, “I really do work at an animal shelter.”

    All I could think all episode was how much more handsome Charming was in Storybrooke than in Fairytalelandville. And that was mostly due to the plaid. Dear God am I a sucker for a hot guy in plain. And because I’m twelve, I giggled when you wrote “(and I have a debate on that down below)”. That’s what she said. But seriously, for me it’s no contest. The leaning, plaid/henley combo and slow smile. Sold. Josh Dallas FTW.

    I wasn’t that into the Fairtytalelandville plot this episode. Apparently I’m only invested when it revolves around Snow and Charming. But I was actually surprised when the prince got run through by the brute. I did laugh out loud at how goofy his twin looked staring off into nothingness on the farm. Cheesy. And unattractive. Boy needed a haircut. And with the farm being so poor I kept expecting him to be like “it’s cool, ma, lemme just run into town and get some magic beans.” Seriously, I thought he was going to turn into Jack. It wouldn’t have made any sense, but that’s what I thought was coming.

    Rumplestilskin is still creepy as fuck. So much kudos to the actor because he just nauseates me week after week.

    As for the whole King Midas thing – I kept getting the “Trust the Midas touch” jingle stuck in my head. Every time they said his name! And because I’m weird like this, when the King turned the Prince’s sword into gold all I could think was that it was a stupid move because gold’s a much weaker and more malleable metal and surely wouldn’t hold up well against a dragon. I need help. I also couldn’t disassociate dragon slaying and knights with Monty Python and the Holy Grail, but I’m fine with that.

  • http://onlymystory.wordpress.com/ Melissa

    I know this makes me a kind of horrible person but I am in no way worried about the Sheriff. Actually I guess I should clarify why I’m not worried. First, the mention of Stiltsie not raising people from the dead makes me think that just because he can’t do it, doesn’t make it impossible. Now if Graham does die, I’d be interested in seeing if Henry has the power to bring him back. Right now Henry’s sort of a John the Baptist for Storybrooke (in the sense that his sole purpose seems to be preparing the way for Emma) and I’d love to see him become vital.
    Also Jamie Dornan is listed as being in upcoming episodes, several in fact and while yes it could be just in the fairytale world, it seems like a lot of time just to be the Huntsman. I guess we’ll see though.

  • Bethany E. Larson

    Oh he HAS to be the Huntsman.

  • Bethany E. Larson

    Oh! The King Midas thing! I def had a discussion last night with a friend of mine over whether or not it was just his hand that turns things to gold. We couldn’t remember and were too lazy to look it up. But this discussion was sparked when it was revealed Midas’s daughter is Abigail/Kathryn. Because I was like, “Wait. Does his penis also have the Midas touch or just his hand?” Hilarity ensued.

    ALSO! Can we please talk about the CRAZY HATS the ladies were wearing as they watched Charming and the Brute in Mordor?

  • http://twitter.com/phouse1964 Patty Housel

    That SMILE! Youza!  And that shepherd hair!  Yikes!

    I am just confused and wanting more. I am lost in the interwoven fairy tales and love it.  It makes my brain spin.

    I though James/David/Charming looked kinda of delish in his knight outfit. You know, with no chain mail. Which I thought was totally weird.

    I really enjoyed the lack of Henry in this episode.

  • http://twitter.com/ReelStina Lemonade

    As much as I’ve been enjoying the pattern of each episode revolving around a certain character (like Lost), I think part of the problem with this episode was the lack of other characters/storylines.  Granted, there were some developments outside of James/David/Charming’s story, like Emma finding out about the Sheriff and Regina.  But I guess since I lump Snow and Charming’s stories together, it seemed liked there was very little for the other characters to do in this one.  

    I guess I prefer a little more balance, so that one character can still be the focal point of the episode, but there should still be a somewhat unrelated B-story for the other Storybrooke characters.  Otherwise, this character-of-the-week thing could get a little tiring.  I’m hoping once they’ve finished establishing all the main characters it’ll become similar to Lost in that the early episodes were especially focused on one character (in the flashbacks), but there were still developments for multiple storylines in the present time.  I hope that makes sense!

    I love the little details as well, especially with the names.  I had figured the choice of David may have been a Goliath reference before this episode, so it was nice to see that validated.  But I wasn’t even really thinking about the allusions to that story during the episode.  (I was thinking more of the Prince & The Pauper route.)  I also knew the name James is derived from Jacob, but I didn’t know the Biblical story with him pretending to be his brother (hmm, siblings trading places is SO trendy on tv right now!), so I love the choice of James even more now.  

    And I wasn’t sure if any of the names were said in this episode and I just missed it, so I too wondered which twin was named James.  But I was thinking (or at least hoping) that he told Snow his real name instead of the prince’s name.  Partly because I just love the name and hate to think he’s not really James, but also because I love the idea of him telling her his real name because he wants her to know the real him.  And it would mean the writers are that much more brilliant for writing the name reveal the way they did in that third episode, since it works on so many levels in hindsight.  Way to go show!

    Can’t wait for next week when we finally get to see Sheriff Graham in the EF!  I’m spoiler-free as of now, so I wonder what his names will be.  :)  Thanks for the great recap Melissa!

  • http://twittter.com/hockeybychoice hockeybychoice

    Charming is ADORABLE. I need Mary Margaret and David/James to be together, right the fuck now. They are so captivating in their scenes together. Also love that they seem to be dating in real life. (squeee)

    Holy shit the promo! Can’t wait for Sheriff Graham (the Hunstman for sure now, right?) and Emma and remembering and ahh. I’m not too worried about them killing him off. I think he’s becoming a big draw for the show and they haven’t really flushed his character out yet. It would seem like a HUGE waste.

    The internets are kinda stupid. I was reading some stuff after the episode about Emma being so visibly upset when she found out the Sheriff was sleeping with Regina. Some people said she had no right (?) to be upset, that they are consenting adults blah bullshit blah. Really? Haven’t you ever been attracted to a guy, only to find out he’s sleeping with your arch enemy/adopted mother of your biological child and mayor of the creepy fucking storybook town that’s not really real? JEEZ! Of course she’s hurt by that. It’s not like Emma’s found any other beddable men in that town. He’s scruffy and has an accent and carries a gun. COME ON.

    More red based plaid shirts please!

  • http://onlymystory.wordpress.com/ Melissa

    All the story ever says is that King Midas had the Golden Touch and that he first got frustrated when he would try to pick up food or drink and it turned to gold and then he flipped out after he turned his daughter to gold. I always assumed it was just his hand. Good grief, a golden penis. That is an odd discussion.

    Seriously with the hats! I do not understand!

  • http://onlymystory.wordpress.com/ Melissa

    Oh yeah to be clear I think that haircut was terrible but my word it’s better than a lot of wigs on other shows, which is just sad. And honestly people, if my mother could afford to pay a couple hundred bucks for a good (and goodlooking) wig during her chemo, you’d think the billion dollar studio could handle it.

    Hee on Jack and the beanstalk. Apparently that’s the character Josh Dallas most wants to appear on the show.

  • http://onlymystory.wordpress.com/ Melissa

    Same on the lack of Henry. I go back and forth on him so I’m pretty sure it’s just a matter of how the show uses him. Especially since right now we’ve seen no evidence of Henry being of any more use than getting Emma to Storybrooke. If he’s going to remain a key figure in the stories, he needs a greater purpose.
    Though I still awed like crazy when he asked his grandpa if he’d ever used a sword before.

  • http://onlymystory.wordpress.com/ Melissa

    I think that’s a good point on needing some balance. Even episode 3, as Snow/Charming focused as it was, was better. Sure we got some of Snow’s backstory but it was interwoven with how they met, not just her straight up backstory and the Storybrooke plot involved more people. In this one, it was basically the Josh Dallas show and while I have no problem watching that, it will get a bit tiring to have nothing with the other characters.
    Plus, I feel like the show may need to decide a bit better who their central characters are and weave them into the back stories more. Like Ruby for example is always around in Storybrooke so when we get to her backstory, I feel like there will be a lot more involvement with the others. And Cinderella’s story is very integral with Snow, Charming, and Rumplestiltskin. But then Jiminy Cricket’s story really had very little to do with the others in either world. So if the central characters are going to be Snow, Charming, Emma, Henry, Rumplestiltskin and Regina, with a few others like Ruby, Kathryn and Sheriff Graham as supporting characters, any other fun fairytale stories need to be well woven into their plots. But that is part of learning to balance an ensemble cast and I suppose it has to be tough when there are so many wonderful fairytales and mythologies to include.

    I seriously love the name James too (it’s an old family name) and I just don’t see how, if he met Snow so soon after being forced into this new role, he would’ve made such a big deal about his name if it was fake. Prince Charming would’ve been fine. We are definitely on the same page.
    Oh and I did hear some people mention the Prince & the Pauper thing but I don’t think it fits very well. The Prince wasn’t dead in that one and the pauper wanted to take his place. It just didn’t seem quite right to me.

  • http://onlymystory.wordpress.com/ Melissa

    I’m kind of starting to wonder now if next week’s Sheriff Graham centered episode will be a way for the show to take us from backstory episodes to a kicked into high gear show. We’ve gotten the backstory of the seemingly main characters so maybe he’ll jumpstart the real story/breaking of the curse.

    Oh, and Josh Dallas and Ginnifer Goodwin are NOT dating in real life. That’s a rumor that nasty media people who can’t leave celebrities alone or accept that people who work together might be good friends without bumping uglies. Sorry, that’s not directed as yelling at you dear, I just get annoyed by media who insist that stars are always dating in real life just because they go out to dinner after work. But Josh is married to Lara Pulver (Claudine from True Blood and now Irene Adler on Sherlock) and has been for the last 4 years. As I understand they are quite happy too.

  • http://twittter.com/hockeybychoice hockeybychoice

    Aw I want them to date. They’re just so pretty together.

    The little piece I overheard while I was in the kitchen said that Josh was apparently separated or something. I wasn’t really listening past, they went grocery shopping together, then it was just me squeeing in delight.

    Yes, my life lacks any real meaning.

  • Grace

    I love your OUAT write ups and I’ve been a silent reader for a while. But as a response to your question about lifting from other stories. There’s a quote I’m always reminded of which as you mentioned the bible is indeed from said book. 

    “What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun”.

  • http://twitter.com/MCC2040 Nicci

    I share your thought on the whole “both boys named James” thing. But I have two theories: 

    A.) Rumpy pulled some of his all-knowing bull shit and had a hand in the naming, telling the parents both boys NEED THIS NAME because he knows the future and shit happens. (Even though I have issues with these parents selling their child so their farm can survive, not that I’m judging. Just wondering if other options weren’t pursued before they decided to do the unthinkable. However, I’m torn because it was necessary for survival, apparently, and some prices are high end bitches. That, and Rumpy- I need no further explanation, just him.)

    B.) Sentimental reasons. Rumpy comes to this couple who are elated for having two beautiful baby boys, but who also happen to be hurting. And giving up one caused so much pain for them, that they named the other boy after the other simply to serve as a reminder. While that’s quite shitty and touching, it makes sense in my head. 

    But those are my two cents concerning that. I’m far too lazy to comment on the rest, but I love your reviews, and I feel like I should just say that every review. 

    That, and I can’t comment on Kathryn/Abigail because I hate the bitch’s guts. And the honorable thing is pissing me off even though it makes me love David more. Annnnd. Whale. I just want to punch him in the damned face and then give Mary a fucking bear hug. Emma too. All the awards to her for hitting Graham because he shouldn’t be sleeping with the enemy, he should be sleeping with her.

  • Em

    I can’t believe that it took me this long to read the recap and comments!  I’ve been looking forward to this recap since Sunday night, but then yesterday was a little crazy. 

    I love the green screen mockery.  I was kind of bothered by the whole scene in Mordor and so glad when it turned out not to be James because Charming was a little cocky.  How very Gladiator of them to have the giant and James fight to the death just to prove that he could maybe kill a dragon.  Also, I freaked out when the sword turned to gold.  I understood that they were showing us that he was Midas, but using a soft, gold sword to kill a dragon = stupid.  Plus, I couldn’t help thinking, “what if that sword was an heirloom or something” like Inigo Montoya’s.  Charming didn’t ask him to turn it into gold.  Big tangent.  Sorry.

    I love that James (definitely his real name) didn’t grow up a prince.  I love that he always tries to do the right thing.  When his memory came back, he changed course because it was the right thing to do, not because his feeling for MM changed at all.  The scenes between them were epic.  Also, Josh Dallas in plaid FTW.

    I wonder what Stiltsie’s overall motive is.  Does he just like to meddle/be powerful or is there a driving force behind all the madness?

    I’m really excited for next week and completely unspoiled.  I can’t wait to see what happens.  Hopefully there are lots of longing looks between MM and David/James.  And I totally agree that Daddy Snark is the BBW especially remembering his oogling of Ruby.  That reminds me – great job on the stories behind the names.  I got the David and Goliath thing (how could anyone not being that they made it incredibly obvious?), but the rest was all stuff that I hadn’t thought of yet.  Thanks!

  • http://onlymystory.wordpress.com/ Melissa

    I think the sentimental reason works just as well for a reason to name both boys James. Though since you mention it, I think I’d actually still guess that Stiltsie (or Rumpy) influenced the decision but the parents were okay with it because of sentimentality.

    And yeah I don’t understand parents selling their child. But maybe it was something like Cinderella, where she didn’t quite realize what she was signing away until later.

    Anywho, thanks for commenting and don’t ever feel bad for not commenting on everything. We can write novels over here as comments and it can get a little intimidating. :)

  • http://onlymystory.wordpress.com/ Melissa

    Seriously the green screen was killing me. I mean if the Disney Channel can get better green screen for Wizards of Waverly Place (yes, I watch it, all ya’ll can shush now), we’re in sad shape. And yes, the sword thing was stupid. My only hope is that maybe Midas’ gold was different than ours but otherwise it was just stupid.

    Yay for everyone agreeing with me that his real name is James! And if I can use this opportunity to rant for a second, I seriously don’t understand how so many people aren’t getting (or at least considering) that. Based on the timeline, all of this happened within a matter of weeks. We could maybe give it a 2-3 month range but I feel like that’s pushing it. And regardless of how long it was before Charming & Abigail left, it was within a couple days from being forced to become someone else that he met Snow and insisted on telling her his real name. I just don’t see how it can be anything else.

    Yeah I think Josh Dallas is winning the plaid battle for me too. Even if I throw Wade Kinsella (hart of Dixie) in the mix.

    I’m curious about Stiltsie too. I’m sure there’s more than just a desire to meddle but I’m trying to figure out if he gets people indebted to him to make sure he’s never at anyone’s mercy (remember he knew what Cinderella was doing with that new contract and magic quill and signed anyway, asking her if she was prepared for the consequences) or if he has more of a master plan. I like the idea of a master plan because it means that when Regina’s curse is broken, the characters suddenly have a new big bad to deal with.

  • http://twitter.com/MCC2040 Nicci

    I know but… It’s your child. If you don’t realize what you’re signing away when it comes to your own flesh and blood then… I don’t even know what to tell you, haha. But true though. I don’t think they thought of the consequences, or at least the weight of their decision didn’t truly settle in until they had already made the deal. It’s quite sad. 

    (Huge fuckery being they basically signed their child’s death certificate by handing him over to the riches.)

    Novel writing is sort of my thing, so if I ever do get into a comment, it’d probably end up just as long as your reviews. Rambling is my specialty :) But you’re welcome, I’ll try to comment more often! 

  • http://onlymystory.wordpress.com/ Melissa

    Ya’ll I just had a thought and I think I know what I’m most looking forward to on this show. More than Snow & Charming finding each other in Storybrooke or Regina getting her comeuppance or Stiltsie having a greater purpose or Henry having less screen time or other fairytale characters to appear. I can’t wait for the moment when Snow or Charming or both remember who they are and realize that Emma is their daughter. Because all joking aside about them being basically the same age, that is going to be the most epic reunion ever. I cannot wait. I’m getting kind of teary-eyed writing this comment and thinking about it so I’ll probably go through an entire box of kleenex but that’s really the moment I can’t wait for. To see Emma find her parents, after her dad told her “find us” and to see them meet their daughter for the first time since she was born. I’ll be a mess but that has the potential to be one of the greatest TV scenes of all time.

  • http://twitter.com/KimberGracie Kimber

    Super late to the party, but I just needed to weigh in on this episode. It broke my fucking heart! Really, I also find it hard to believe that we are only SIX mere episodes in, because I am in love with the majority of these characters. And when Mary Margaret has her heart stomped by David … ugh. There were honest to goodness tears in my eyes too.

    I do get that Robert Carlyle can be seen by some as “overacting” and “chewing the scenery”, but I just think he’s fantastic. To me, he plays Stiltsie perfectly – almost cartoonish. When he’s playing Mr. Gold he’s a bit less like that, which tells me he knows just how much to give. Either way, he is mesmerizing to watch.

    Weighing in on your above plaid vs. plaid … damn. You had to put Charming up against Nick Weschler didn’t you? Fuuuuuck. Clearly I did not realize that Nick had returned to TV (seriously – he’ll always be Kyle from Roswell to me), but he is looking damn fine. Still, Charming is currently charming his way into my heart right now so I have to say he wins at the plaid/slow smile.

  • http://onlymystory.wordpress.com/ Melissa

    It’s never too late to this party! 
    To be clear, I really do like Robert Carlyle and for the most part I’ve been fascinated by his portrayal of Stiltsie. This episode was the first time it seemed overkill. Hopefully it is the exception and not the norm.

    I know I do not understand how we’re only about to hit episode 7 and yet I’m already this invested.

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