Nigel Lythgoe and the Closet Door

Cole Farrell

In 1996, at a picnic table beside the playground of my old elementary school, I started my first business venture. My friend Sarah and I created what we were certain would be the first unofficial Rosie O’Donnell fan magazine. We developed a thorough business plan—photos would be cut from other magazines, finished issues could be generated on the copying machine at my father’s office—but like many startups, our idea never came to fruition. I watched The Rosie O’Donnell Show every single day it was aired, and most days I recorded it on VHS that I would rewatch until I wore the tape thin.

Rosie’s show gave mainstream attention to Broadway musicals. She spent time with smart people, and she played silly games and told stupid jokes and belly laughed at ridiculous sound effects, which is to say that Rosie O’Donnell’s quirky little television show shaped much of who I am. I’m not really the praying type, but every once in a while I throw one up to the sky just asking for The Rosie O’Donnell Show to be brought back exactly the way it was.

See, I am a television person. It started with my envy of Punky Brewster’s rickety flower cart bed and spreads to the present day, in which I often have to bite my tongue as my peers explain how much happier they are that they don’t even own a TV.

For better or worse, much of my life has been measured in TV moments. I remember Oksana Baiul defeating Nancy Kerrigan for the gold medal in figure skating at the 1994 Olympic Games. I cried into a pile of newspaper articles about Kerrigan, many of which I had laminated in Con-Tact paper. You know, the stuff you line drawers with. I remember watching Golden Girls with my grandma on the evenings that she picked me up from school. Every single thing I know today about being a delicate southern slut came, possibly too early, from Blanche.

And I remember the first night I watched So You Think You Can Dance in 2005. Even though I was too old for such tomfoolery, I remember being so moved by the first round of auditions that I blew my entire savings on the extravagance of a TiVo box so that I would never miss a single second.


Toward the end of her run on television, Rosie O’Donnell announced to the world that she is gay. It wasn’t just a subtle revelation: in no time flat, she was shaving half of her head (more than a decade before Rihanna made it trendy!) and running her big mouth to every possible media outlet.

Several years earlier, in 1997, Ellen Degeneres’ sitcom aired its now infamous coming out episode. I watched it with my parents, and short of a dream sequence that featured a goofy canteloupes-as-boobs moment and the accidental “I’m gay” that Ellen blurted out over an airport loudspeaker, I remember very little of it.

I do, however, remember what came after: magazine covers, an advisory graphic at the beginning of future episodes of her show, rallies outside of the studio where the show was filmed, and many overheard conversations in which people would say “I don’t care if she chooses to be gay, but she doesn’t have to be so…militant about it.” Ellen’s viewership shrank and within a season, the show was canceled.

Somewhere, in the midst of those high-profile coming out stories, I learned to internalize what I was hearing all around me: it’s okay for someone to be gay, (I guess, if they choose to), as long as they don’t rub it in people’s faces, or talk about it, or act on it, or shave half their head, or hope for a successful career, or start having crazy thoughts like maybe they want to be married to another gay person.

I didn’t only believe it, I echoed it. “It’s fine that Rosie is gay,” I surely said to friends. “But why is she suddenly so mad at the world?”


I didn’t really have the vocabulary for it then, but I started to realize that I was different in the second grade. Television-wise, we were deep into the Full House years, and I think I started to realize I was more interested in Uncle Jesse than I was in DJ. Conversations at school started to revolve around baseball and, in a silly second grade way, girls. I was more engaged with reading books (and earning free pizzas!) than I was in hanging out with other boys in my class.

I started to draw closer to girls as friends. I immersed myself deeper in the imaginary worlds contained within my parents’ collection of folk and showtunes LPs. I strung jute from one side of my bedroom to another, folded a sheet over it, and made of my bed an imaginary stage where I performed for an audience of adoring fans.

Though I would not be sexually active for years (and years and years and years), my sexuality started to shape every aspect of my life from that point, and probably even sooner.


If there’s one thing a television person knows (other than to avoid spoilers like the plague), it is that you can’t really explain your indulgence to non-TV people. Which is why it felt ridiculous to try and summarize a recent reality TV brouhaha for my friend Amy, who is the closest thing I have in my life to a completely television-free person. The fight, about the suppression of sexual identity on reality competition programs, is between Adam Lambert (famous for his gothpop wail), Adam Levine (owner of the world’s most immaculate V-shaped hip muscle and the lead singer of Maroon 5) and Nigel Lythgoe (famous for his 70′s Peter Frampton hairdo, chattering clown teeth, and gig as Executive Producer of American Idol).

To summarize:

Adam Lambert, the runner-up and should-be winner of American Idol Season 8 came forward and said that AI producers convinced him to not be honest about his sexuality. He was not allowed to give interviews, so people were left to speculate if he was indeed gay (which he had been open about for years before he was on the show).

Adam Levine, who hosted The Voice on NBC, recently put American Idol on blast in an interview with Out Magazine:

“What’s always pissed me off about Idol is wanting to mask that, for that to go unspoken. C’mon. You can’t be publicly gay? At this point? On a singing competition? Give me a break. You can’t hide basic components of these people’s lives. The fact that The Voice didn’t have any qualms about being completely open about it is a great thing.”

Nigel Lythgoe, the executive producer of American Idol and So You Think You Can Dance, responded in an EW interview:

I didn’t understand why we’re talking about contestants being gay or not gay. I don’t go into my dentist and say, “Are you gay?” I don’t say to contestants on So You Think You Can Dance, “Are you gay?” What does it got to do with me? What does it got to do with anybody? When does privacy stop in this country? If somebody wants to say they’re gay, it’s up to them. You don’t expect us to turn around and say, “Are you gay?” Why would we do that? — “By the way, he’s a Catholic and he supports Obama and here’s his sexuality” — what does that have anything to do with singing talent? Maybe it does for Adam Levine, but not for me.

Somebody hold my earrings. Shit just got good.


All 1,200 words that you have read so far were just a way for me to write myself into the center of the frustration that I have felt about Lythgoe’s response. For 24 hours now, I have been ruminating on ideas of power and privilege. The moral of the story is, to quote Ani DiFranco (and reveal myself as a total dorm room crusader): “Privilege is a headache that you don’t know that you don’t have.”

On So You Think You Can Dance, Lythgoe has firmly positioned himself as the only completely permanent member of an ever-revolving panel. Women serve largely as objects of his gaze, their bodies constantly available for his sexually suggestive feedback. Male dancers who transgress rigid boundaries of masculinity are victims of ridicule. Just a few years ago, when two male ballroom dancers auditioned together, their “brokeback ballroom” routine and the fact that they were touching each other made Nigel “feel sick.” He quickly issued one of those immensely popular “I’m sorry if you didn’t get it” non-apologies which also firmed-up his belief in patriarchal gender roles.

Listen, it would be stupid to expect smart ideas about the world to come from a judge on a silly reality show. It also seems unfair to let him off the hook when he has an audience that is vast and impressionable, to whom he has invested his own money to position himself as an expert.

Lythgoe contends that it is rude to talk about sexuality. This is probably for the same reasons that, to people who have money, it is rude to talk about money, and to people who are of a dominant racial group, it is rude to talk about race. People who have been afforded great privilege don’t have to think or talk about their privilege, they can simply act on it.

Also, you cannot say in an interview that sexuality is irrelevant, then produce a show that is held together almost entirely by sexuality. Nearly every song performed on American Idol is about (male-female) sexuality, whether intercourse or romance. Every SYTYCD dance, as we’re told by the choreographers’ video packages, is about a romantic relationship between a man and a woman, or two men who are in love with the same woman, or two women who have been hurt by the same man. To say that these two shows function independently of sexuality is to say that these poor dummies are singing and dancing to Skinamarinky Dinky Dink. And even that sounds pretty phallic.

How can Lythgoe claim to not care about sexuality? Because, although he’s also been shaped by his sexuality since the second grade just like I have, he has never had to defend his sexuality. As a member of the dominant group, he’s been given carte blanche to assert his sexual identity anywhere he damn well pleases. Sure, he’s probably been called gay before—lots of times, actually—but he still has access to all of the corners of the world that have been closed off to those who aren’t white, or straight, or rich.

Finally, the obsessive gender-policing is especially egregious when you think about who makes up the talent pool. Sure, you’re pandering to votes from a middle-American audience. But to pretend that Hollywood and Broadway and every corner of the entertainment world aren’t filled with super-talented gay people is dumber than pretending that most reality television producers aren’t British billionaires.


It took me a long time to unlearn the lie that those who are different should just shut up about it. Why did Rosie have to make such a scene? Why did Ellen have to go and get herself blacklisted from Hollywood for a good long while (a fact that is easy to forget now that we all know her as the queen of daytime)? Why is someone who is an “other” obsessed with always talking about being an “other”?

Because it’s all we know how to do. It is the only way to carve out our place in this world, to hope that the message of “It Gets Better” goes beyond a bunch of little internet videos.

It’s the way we wear grooves into the worry stones that we’ve carried with us since the moment we first realized that, without any notice, we could be punched in the neck, or stabbed in the side, or fired from our jobs, or stomped on the curb just for living honestly.

From my earliest memory, television has shaped me. From those same memories, I have been shaped by my sexuality as well. Being gay has informed the way I talk (yes, nasally with hissing S’s), the way I dress, the hobbies I enjoy, the unfortunate ways I sometimes feel uncomfortable in my own skin, the awkward ways that I bloomed late and fumble my way through relationships, the immediate ways I am able to connect with people, and my decision to always raise my voice.

Surely in 2011, television, particularly television that relies on subsuming the identities and talents of the people from whom it profits and without whom it wouldn’t exist, can create a place where people can come and be completely gay.

And please, So You Think You Can Dance, when you do the first dance routine where two men kiss, bring Mia back to choreograph it. Her routines are just beyond.


Cole Farrell is super gay and pretty militant about it. He is fortunate to be surrounded by people who are pretty okay with that. He is a writer, and you can follow him on Twitter.

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  • http://twitter.com/MaryAjango Mary Farrell Ajango

    As always your writing is beautiful and always makes my heart hurt a little bit. 

  • http://twitter.com/TONicole Nicole

    Cole, this was fantastic.  I love everything you write, but this was particularly awesome. 

  • Anonymous

    This is really lovely, and right on point. Nigel is maddening.

  • http://twitter.com/SafetyStace Stacy Fields

    Sad my comment didn’t go through the first time! This is so well written I love it, I agree with it, and now I shall pass it on to others. 

  • TBAmy

    Wow.  Thank you for posting this.  I love SYTYCD, but I haven’t been able to listen to Nigel for the past 2 years because of his misogynistic commentary with homophobic undertones.  The fast forward button on the DVR is a godsend.  Thank you for writing this — I hope it’s widely read.

  • http://twitter.com/phouse1964 Patty Housel

    I heart you.  

  • Cara

    Cole you have a gift of a voice. Beautifully said.

  • http://twitter.com/ahow628 ahow628

    I guess I get to be Debbie Downer here. Cole, I think you are being a drama queen, but I’m guessing you already knew that.

    My main confusion is why you are allowed to scold Nigel for ogling the pretty girls, which is well within his nature as a straight guy, while trying to repeatedly emphasize the word “choose” when referring to others’ judgments about being gay. Not to mention the convenient path of failing to mention all the women (and gay men) judges that drool over Pasha, Dmitry, and Robert and request more shirt removal.

    Being a straight white guy, I’m pretty conscientious of the fact that I am in most every way seen as dominant in this country. You might think that gives someone like me (or Nigel or whoever) the power, but honestly, it doesn’t. You are hamstrung with words like racist, homophobe, and sexist. It doesn’t matter if you don’t like someone based on some completely other quality such as being irritating (Rosie), unfunny (Ellen), or a jerk (me?).

    More specifically to the two dudes dancing together, it was really unfortunate that those two were the ambassadors of male-male ballroom. Just to help you clean your rose colored glasses – they fell down, neither was the lead nor the follow (the phrase “rudderless ship” might have been used), and they were non-sexy while trying to a sexy dance (Melanie’s chacha in the finale was on the same level). For ballroom specifically, the second was the biggest killer since you need someone to lead. The judges have specifically called out male-female ballroom dancers for not defining their roles enough, so why would a male-male couple get a pass?

    Should Nigel have made the “feel sick” comment? Depends whether you want his feelings on the matter or whether you want some sanitized feelings that were ok’d by standards and practice. You are telling Nigel that how he feels about something is wrong or, at least, shouldn’t be expressed publicly. Have you been told that something about you is wrong or, at least, should be expressed publicly? And also, if you don’t think a Nigel has ever had to defend his sexuality, that seems very naive given the stereotypes of the industries that he has made his name in.

    Now that I’ve gotten everyone worked into a froth, I will say this is an incredible piece of writing. It certainly provoked thought from me.

  • http://twitter.com/colefarrell Cole Farrell

    Don’t have a hurt heart, little Tezzy. It’s okay!

  • http://twitter.com/colefarrell Cole Farrell

    Thank you so much.

  • http://twitter.com/colefarrell Cole Farrell

    Thank you! 

  • http://twitter.com/colefarrell Cole Farrell

    I know. I’ve been frustrated with him for years. Thanks for your feedback!

  • http://twitter.com/colefarrell Cole Farrell

    Thanks so much.

  • http://twitter.com/colefarrell Cole Farrell

    I was waiting for you! Thanks for the feedback.

  • http://twitter.com/colefarrell Cole Farrell

    Thanks, Cara.

  • http://twitter.com/colefarrell Cole Farrell

    I’m definitely not worked into a froth, though come to think of it, that sounds kind of delightful. Thanks for your feedback, Andy, I was hoping someone would engage with me. That’s often the most intriguing part of writing something about which you feel passionate.

    I think maybe a lot of what you’ve said here works to firm up a lot of what I was trying to say: the thing about the privilege you’ve been afforded is that you don’t even know that you have it. I’m not talking about power in the King Kong sense—you can’t just walk around knocking buildings over—but the only way for you to be acutely aware of how much privilege you (or Nigel, or any other straight white man) have would be for you to not have it any more.

    The reason that people don’t often have conversations like this (outside of stuffy grad school classrooms) is because they are uncomfortable, and because it makes everyone feel defensive. It isn’t fun to feel like you’re the bad guy for a series of things you can’t even control. And the gut-level response is “well, but, I personally am different from my people group.” Doesn’t matter. You still get afforded a lot of luxuries.

    I get to be a middle class white man in a world where being middle class, male, and white mean that I am naturally treated differently than if I were poor or had dark skin or I were a woman. I don’t even know the vastness of my own privilege.

    And regarding Nigel’s nature to ogle women, that again falls in line with what I’m trying to say: if I were to exercise my nature to ogle men in most places in this world, I would get punched in the face. And, sure, he’s allowed look at women and think that they’re pretty, but do their bodies exist merely as objects for his gaze? That’s a whole ‘nother feminist conversation we’ll probably have to have at some other point.

    I have tons of respect for you Andy, and I’m glad you raised your voice. But I think the reason I wrote this piece is because of what you expressed in your comment. I know, as someone who doesn’t have to think about these things on a minute-by-minute basis, that I must seem like a drama queen. I admit it: I spend much of my life being a drama queen. But what I was trying to say is that I refuse to be told to “get over it” by someone who has no idea what “it” feels like. 

    And as for the comparisons of racism and homophobia to someone just being a jerk, well, I would have to say those are pretty different reasons to dislike someone. To tell Ellen you dislike her for being unfunny is an entirely different thing than to tell her to hide a fundamental part of who she is, right?

    We should get a beer (well, maybe a beer for you and an appletini for me) and discuss this deep into the night.

  • Randi

    I am utterly disgusted by the way that Nigel Lithgoe talks about both genders. He needs to learn that gender roles are seriously shades of gray. I’m a woman but I’m not a very feminine woman. I’ve always preferred the company of men to women (less so as I age). I was lumped in as “Just one of the guys” a lot. I really felt sort of gender neutral even though I do have a lot of very feminine characteristics. They just aren’t reflected in floral print or skirts.

    I understand the privilege that I have being white and relatively well off (especially compared to the sheer poverty that many in this country face). I understand that I’m also at a total disadvantage for a couple reasons: I am white and I am fat. I won’t use the term overweight here because let’s keep it real.

    I honestly think that the most persecuted group aside from gays in all of TV land are fat women. And especially fat white women. Even at my absolute thinnest, Khloe Kardashian and I have a lot more in common than Heidi Klum and I specifically because of our size. I’m never going to be a little tiny dainty woman. Ever. And I feel like I should hide in a little corner and not bother anyone because if I do, I’m going to get criticized for something that I struggle to control and ultimately end up defeated. Being fat is not like being gay because people are starting to realize that gay is not something that you can change (thank goodness) whereas being fat is something that people see changed every day on shows like The Biggest Loser and Extreme Makeover Weight Loss Edition.

    To top this off, most of my life I had extraordinarily bad teeth because I was raised in a family where we couldn’t afford luxuries like braces (due to a really messy divorce). I have braces now and that is finally getting fixed but I can tell you, there is nothing worse in this world than having bad teeth in the age of orthodontics. If you want to be a pariah, wear fake teeth that are crooked or otherwise strange and you’ll feel all the pain in the world.

    Both of these attributes were things I had to wear for the world to see. So I really know how much it sucks for differences to be visible. At the end of the day, I am thankful for what I have. I only wish we could live in a world where everyone, regardless of what they looked like, what their sexual preference was, what race they were, what sort of disability that they had or anything else that makes them different wouldn’t make them a target for ridicule on TV or anywhere else.

    This was very important, Cole. Thanks for sharing.

  • http://twitter.com/phouse1964 Patty Housel

    You know in my heart I am a drag queen extraordinaire!

  • http://twitter.com/phouse1964 Patty Housel

    I took Cole’s use of “choosing to be gay” as being ironic.  As in that’s what people used to think. Maybe some still do. Gay people “choose” to be gay.  You know, it’s not like anyone is born gay.  

    I also agree with Cole that middle class, white, christian, males are more privileged than almost any other class.  They make more money and and rarely live in fear of any kind.  Most have a greatish life while others (of any race, religion or gender) struggle daily with discrimination, poverty and fear. 

    Please take note that I said “most” not all.  I can say that “most” men I know think that the deserve the best even when they behave the worst.  

    PS this includes my fucking family.

  • Randi

    And when I said white above, I meant a woman. Dude, I am an idiot!

  • http://twitter.com/onlymystory Melissa Leaman

    On the subject of the note itself, I really appreciated this article, Cole and I’ve been encouraging others to read it.

    But, I thought I’d comment on a teeny little phrase in your comment Randi. And to be clear, this isn’t trying to attack or call you out. I just think it’s something more people need to be aware of. You mentioned “sexual preference”. While straight myself, (seriously an Adonis belt on some guys is just wow) several friends have brought up to me the frustration they have when people use that term. Because either you’re born a certain way, straight, gay, asshole, etc…or you choose to be that way. And the very word preference implies a choice. 
    Anyway, the overall comment made it clear that you do have the right idea. I just try to point that out to people ever since I was made aware of it. 

  • http://twitter.com/ahow628 ahow628

    “And as for the comparisons of racism and homophobia to someone just being a jerk, well, I would have to say those are pretty different reasons to dislike someone. To tell Ellen you dislike her for being unfunny is an entirely different thing than to tell her to hide a fundamental part of who she is, right?”
    I certainly wasn’t trying to compare homophobia or racism to being a jerk, but was trying to say that people love to make assumptions on why someone dislikes someone else. I was simply saying that when you are white or straight, you can’t express dislike as easily because people love to take the easy route and blame it on racism or homophobia. Heaven forbid I think Rosie is just irritating or Ellen is unfunny. It is much easier to just pull the race or homophobe card and be done with it. What is a white straight guy supposed to say to combat those accusations? The “jerk” part was, apparently, a poor attempt at sarcasm. Probably could have used one of these: ;)

    “But what I was trying to say is that I refuse to be told to “get over it” by someone who has no idea what “it” feels like.”

    This might be the most important sentence on this entire webpage. Unfortunately it is the most difficult to deal with. It is impossible for me to every experience “it” in order to have compassion or empathy for “it”. Try as I may, I can’t properly empathize with my wife being pregnant, but you can be sure I’ll try my damnedest.

    “We should get a beer (well, maybe a beer for you and an appletini for me) and discuss this deep into the night.”

    Done.

  • http://twitter.com/ahow628 ahow628

    Yeah, Patty, I realized that the “choosing” was meant in an ironic sense.

    When I was in high school, I worked at Lazarus (aka Macy’s). I worked with a kid who was 16 and out-of-the-closet gay. Given my very conservative background (raised in a rural Iowa 1500 person town and parents were Christian missionaries), I was under the distinct impression that gay people chose that lifestyle and it was simply because they were trying to be jerks to God. As I talked to this kid, I asked him if he had ever kissed a girl and he answered in the negative. I then asked him, based on that response, how he KNEW he was gay. He asked me if I had ever kissed a guy. My response: “Good point.” That was the point I knew it wasn’t a choice.

    As for the rest: Yup. But I do try to be conscientious of it.

  • Anonymous

    I hope I’m not too late to this party, but I wanted to let things simmer a bit before jumping in.  Of COURSE I wouldn’t miss it though–this is like the only opportunity I get to use my undergrad sociology degree!

    Obviously, this is a site where we love our gays.  I think that many of the regular readership, most of us hot babes in our 30′s, identify more closely with gay men than most girls.  But yeah, we really DON’T know what it’s like.  I mean, sure, I’m a woman, but I can’t say I feel like I’ve ever really been discriminated against for it.  Of course, in a lot of ways, particularly in assertiveness, the argument could be made that I’m more “masculine” than average, but … I don’t think I’ve ever been denied a job or treated like I’m stupid or been told I can’t do something I want to do in my private life for being a girl.  I’ve also never been told that I can’t say I like boys.

    I agree with the point that Cole is making that it’s not like Idol or SYTYCD contestants are encouraged to not talk about sexuality, it’s that they’re encouraged to not talk about being GAY.  I mean, this seems like a pretty clear difference to me.  So I do think there’s an inequality when, say, a gay contestant can’t mention or talk about their partner, but I know from my Idol watching days of old that hetero spouses and significant others do get mentions.  It’s a clear double standard, and if Nigel really believes that it’s up to someone to decide for themselves whether they want to say if they’re gay or not gay, then how about, oh I don’t know, LET THEM SAY IT.

    And Andy, you know how much I love you, and I know that you’re a smart and compassionate person, and I know you aren’t hateful in any way.  But I really disagree with your opinion that Cole is being a drama queen for expressing (or having) this opinion.  Sure, Cole is, in general, a drama queen, but not for this.  It’s legitimate.  And I definitely think that we all have a responsibility to talk about the difficult issues.  Nothing good ever happens from keeping quiet about the things that could be improved, and the reason why gay people (and black people, and women, and so on and so forth) is because they refused to sit down and shut up and take it.  And I mean … yeah.  I guess Nigel is entitled to his honest opinion (re: the “feeling sick” comment), but I’m just as entitled to think his opinion makes him sound like an ignorant dumbass.  Welcome to America (and/or the internet), it’s just that kind of place.  I do not, however, think that Nigel should be entitled to tell people what they can and can’t say.

    And Randi, I certainly don’t want to pass over what you said.  You leave some of the most insightful and honest and REAL comments on this blog, and that actually says a lot because of how real our readers keep it, and I appreciate you so much.  I agree that fat women (and to a lesser extent, fat men) are completely ridiculed and it’s really wrong.  And I think you make a good point that fat people and gay people are in somewhat the same boat because people view both conditions as things that can change, when that isn’t necessarily or always the case.  And you’re also right that people are coming around to the idea that homosexuality isn’t a choice.  So that will still leave overweight people as a target.  And you’re right–it does completely suck that we can’t just be kind to each other, and more understanding.

    And it IS sort of hilarious to talk about kindness and understanding on a blog such as this, but let me tell you–I have a dream, that one day, not just on this blog, but all across the internet, that we will be able to judge and ridicule people based solely on their annoying personality traits, and not what they look like or who they bang or where they’re from.  Unless, of course, they’re from Jersey.

  • Randi

    Sexual Preference is a stupid term, I agree. I use it in the most sanitized, legal way, specifically because it’s the term presently used by the law. But yeah, totally not a choice. Most of the people that I was friends with in elementary school that are now gay were exactly the same in 1st grade.

    In my senior year sociology class, we had a gay man come speak to our class. My question to him was around the theory about hormone levels in the womb and whether he agreed. It led to a really awesome conversation. But thanks for pointing out that the term I used was basically contradictory to the whole point of what I said. Hahaha. :)

  • http://twitter.com/phouse1964 Patty Housel

    I know I am older than you but not by much.  There was a time, not too long ago (less than 20 years) when woman at my company were not allowed to wear pant.  Yes. You read that correctly.  Pants.  I knew people who were sent home to change into a skirt from a lovely pant suit.  Then, when the dress code was change to included pants, woman were required to wear a matching jacket. Men still had to a tie. I think it was 1995 before the dress code was relaxed to allow women to wear random pants and maybe a cardi. 

    It was during this time that mean were not allowed to wear jewelry. The only exceptions were watches and wedding rings.  

    I can remember a friends having to wear a band-aid on his earlobe so that the hole in his ear would be covered.

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