OCTV Year-End Wrap Up 2012: Thursday Shows

Welcome to day three of our 2012 tv year in review! In case you missed the first three, they can be found here and here and here. Thursday television is an embarassment of riches, so check out our thoughts on what we liked, what we didn’t and our thoughts on some behind the scenes drama. Then hit the comments with your opinions, shows we didn’t mention, all of that!

As always, SB’s (@offcolortv) comments are in blue and Nicole’s (@nicole_octv) are in purple.

The Vampire Diaries

Elena is a vampire now. ELENA IS A VAMPIRE NOW!! I’m still not over it – and by ‘it’, I mean my excitement about this development. I’ve loved this show since SB convinced me to start watching it halfway through season one, but if there was one thing I was never crazy about it was the idea of Elena as the perfect, desired-by-all heroine. It’s a difficult role because she has to be special enough to justify the fact that she’s the center of the (show’s) universe, but she also has to be relatable and likeable. For the most part, TVD has done as good a job as they could, but I still found her to be the most boring part of a show filled with much more interesting characters. She was so serious, so angst-ridden, so worried and SO FUCKING PEFECT all the time. Like, I get it Elena. Can you just go and get drunk at a party for once in your freaking life? But now, there is so much potential for the character to be exciting, fun and DANGEROUS. I love it. And The Dobrev is clearly talented enough to pull off whatever they throw at her. Just please, don’t make her into a sad, angsty vampire. To the writers – think more Caroline with a twist of Damon, less Good Stefan. What else? I’m glad Jeremy made it to season four. Same goes for Matt. I’m glad that Klaus is not gone for good. I still don’t really get what’s going on with him and Tyler and Bonnie, but I’m glad it’s happening. I’ll miss Alcoholaric a lot. Who’s Damon going to drink with now? (Note – this is of far more concern to me than any aspect of the love triangle, as it should be.) Lastly, an open plea to Julie Plec – I know that tv is a business and viewers are your customers, but please don’t let the inmates run the asylum. Those crazy assholes who storm twitter every Friday with Team Whatever-motivated death threats? They’re fucking nuts. Don’t cater to them. Tell your story, whatever it is. Let the crazies make their charts counting the number of Delena vs. Stelena scenes (ugh, I hate portmanteaus so much). If the show is good, we will watch it. That is all.

Well, unsurprisingly, I pretty much agree with everything that Nicole said, especially that I’m miss Alcoholaric.  Except I am BEYOND excited about his new show, so I’ll allow it.  Also, I reiterate my concern that the show has turned a little pussy about killing people off for real, because even though it makes me sad, it’s really a necessary part of what makes this show so GOOD.

Obviously, I break the show down every week and you all pretty much know how I feel about all of it, but as far as the season on the whole went, I enjoyed it.  For me, the first season was still the best.  It was always really fast-paced and shocking.  The second season kind of dragged for me, and this one was an improvement, but it was also a little uneven and had a couple issues, mainly that the cast was getting too massive with the Originals and parents and god knows what else, and also that Bonnie is still alive.  But the biggest problems were that, first of all, everything could be done or undone with magic (too easy), and the plot twists and turns didn’t always make logical sense.  It seems like they must have gotten some new writers.  But I did feel like, in spite of those things sometimes, the last part of the season was wonderfully entertaining and engaging, and I feel like they definitely chose the right time to make Elena a vampire.  The show needs a shakeup, and I think that’ll be perfect.  I’m really, really excited for next season.

The Secret Circle

Well, as with Pretty Little Liars, my favorite thing about this show was Nicole’s hilarious recaps.  The biggest thing for me was that I just was BORED with this show.  When it was good, it was never good enough to be awesome, and when it was bad (until the end), it wasn’t bad enough to be hilarious.  By the end, it did get good enough that I kind of felt like, okay, maybe I DO want this to come back next season!  And then it was cancelled that night.

The other thing is … we’re now two shows in with her, and I think it’s safe to say now that I am just not a Britt Robertson fan.  I’m sure she’s a lovely girl, but Lux was one of the most grating characters I’ve ever seen on TV.  And then there was Cassie, who didn’t even start out like Lux, but eventually became her.  And the ONLY redeeming part of all that was watching Diana call her out on being a self-centered bitch.  So yeah, while I’ll be interested in following many of these people to new shows, she’s not one of them and I’m making it official.

This was a fun ‘one and done’ season of tv. It wasn’t without its problems (SADam and Cassie primarily), but I had fun recapping it, especially when shit was bananas (morphing jellyfish crystal skulls, comatose teenage demons, SEX BIRDS). It didn’t grab me in the same way that The Vampire Diaries did in its first season, but by the end I felt connected enough to the characters that I would have been back to watch season 2. Especially given the setup at the very end of the finale – the other Balcoin kids, Evil!Adam, Faye and Melissa having fun with their newly restored powers…it was all very promising. Not to mention I was really starting to get used to getting a weekly dose of Gale Harold on tv again. I was pretty surprised that the CW decided to cancel it and renew, say…90210hmygodthisisstillon???…but they made their choice, so it’s time to move on. I’ll watch for a lot of these actors in other projects – I loved Phoebe Tonkin as Faye, Shelly Henning as Diana and, even though I think his character was problematic for most of the season, I really like Thomas Dekker.  And Zylka is sooooooo pretty. I’m sure they’re all going to be fine. Something that, judging from the online reaction to the cancellation, I’m not sure can be said about the fans. There’s always fanfiction, you guys! You can keep it going forever if you want. And if anyone writes one where Jake and Adam are compelled to conjure some sex birds of their own, send it my way, kay? (Kidding.) (No I’m not.)

The Office

So…. This show was…on television this season. It might have even had a couple of funny moments. But overall, it was a fucking mess. And it pains me to say it, because I had been an early and vocal defender of the idea of a post-Michael Scott Office (I can’t even remember why at this point) and holy hell, was I proven wrong. SO FAR. (I can be disturbingly optimistic when I want to be). I think that the entire introduction of Sabre as a concept has proven to be a failure, as was the use of James Spader, who was as enjoyably creepy as ever, but just did not fit well within the confines of the show, which is supposed to operate in a world that at least partially resembles reality. Nellie was a good character but she was horribly misused, to the point where I find it hard to imagine her fitting back in under Andy’s management next season. Once they had her taking Andy’s job just because she felt like it, and then the CEO ALLOWED IT TO HAPPEN as if there were no such thing as employment laws and wrongful dismissal suits, it was all over. It was so far off the reservation that even I, ever the optimist, wanted to say fuck this noise and bail for good. Previously great characters like Jim and Pam have been reduced to Jim & Pam shaped voids of personality. Andy is a cartoon. Up is down, down is up. Nothing makes sense in Scranton, PA anymore. The one saving grace at the end of the season was the return of David Wallace – I want to take it as a sign that the show will be returning to the smaller, quieter, more dry humor that it used to absolutely OWN and away from the total circus that it’s been lately. However, the fact that Wallace had no issue with donating a million dollars to Robert California’s plan to do ‘charity work‘ by banging foreign dancers or whatever, did not instill a lot of confidence. David Wallace is supposed to be smart. Remember how he never used to have time for Michael’s shenanigans? We need THAT David Wallace at the helm. Please show – use him to elevate the show back to a semblance of its former self rather than letting the show drag him down to its current level. If it works out, maybe we can all just make a pact to never, ever mention season eight again. EVER.

Me and Billy were actually just talking about The (post-Michael Scott) Office last night.  I definitely cut it a lot of slack, but it has devolved into a bit of a hot mess.  James Spader … I don’t know.  Nellie was CLEARLY an attempt at recreating David Brent, and everything non-managerial was just kind of there.  I just feel like this season went on FOREVER.  That’s not to say it was all bad, because I really think that there was at least one moment per episode that I truly laughed out loud at, but in general, here’s how I picture my future with The Office:

At the point where they do a Dwight spinoff, I’m out.  Can’t do it.  Until then, I’ll probably keep watching because I tend to be very all-or-nothing when it comes to my TV viewing loyalty.  However, after it’s all over, I think that in my heart, Michael leaving will be the series finale, although I am willing to consider the end of Season 7 if only because the memory of Andy with D’Angelo Vickers and that little terrier makes me laugh to this day.

30 Rock

Well … hmmm.  This season has been pretty good, in spite of the usual weirdness and problems.  Mostly, I’ve just really enjoyed Liz Lemon and Criss Cross (or however he spells it) and Jenna and Paul.  But it’s like … there’s never really much you can say about 30 Rock because it’s very little plot and a lot of jokes.  So I guess I’ll just leave it at this–the Wiggles spoof at the end of that episode made me laugh so hard I cried.  I was DYING.  And also, I’m glad next season will be the last.  I think it’s run its course.

As a FoTF (Fan of Tina Fey), I have been feeling guilty all season, because I haven’t watched a single episode of 30 Rock since last spring. I’m sorry Tina – I’ve been a bad fan. There was just too much happening on Thursdays and something had to go. But I will catch up (hello, James Marsden is on the show now, isn’t he???). I want to catch up. And especially now that we know that next season is the last, I will make sure that I do it sooner rather than later.

Up All Night

This is a fun show, and it mostly comes down to the cast, because I feel like the writers are still working out the best way to balance Reagan’s home and work life. Sometimes they nail it, and other times the Ava-ness of it all threatens to overtake everything and turn the show almost into a farce. I think it works best when we’re just seeing regular, everyday snippets of the lives of this couple who are desperately trying to maintain their cool factor while also adapting to their roles as new parents. Maya Ruldolph is awesome, don’t get me wrong. I just think that sometimes Ava is so broad compared to everything else that’s going on that her scenes can sometimes feel like they belong in an entirely different show. But I laugh a lot while watching it, and Reagan and Chris are so perfectly written and acted that they feel very real. Even though I don’t have kids, I totally identify with their need to retain their youth while also trying to grow up. Oh my god, the scene where Reagan’s parents were visiting and she had a total teenage meltdown that ended with her lying face down on her bed listening to Depeche Mode? I literally lived that exact moment multiple times as a petulant 13-year-old. It was perfect. And Applegate and Arnett are really good together. I have faith that the show will figure out the tonal issues – season two is usually when a show like this hits its sweet spot – so I’ll definitely be watching in the fall.

Well, I like this show alright and I do feel like it got better as it went on.  And the actors are so CHARMING.  They figured out how to tone down Ava (and the addition of Jason Lee was kind of perfect, really) and bring in a few more ancillary characters.  This isn’t really one that I laugh out loud at a whole lot, but it is enjoyable and I do see it staying in our rotation, and I agree with Nicole that season two will probably be when this show gets mega awesome.  Also, shout out to one of my favorite lines of this TV year, when Chris walks in on Ava naked, and she tells him, “You caught me at my most hirsute.”  LOL FOREVER.

Community

Man, I don’t even know what to say here. I love this show so much (I am drinking coffee out of a Troy & Abed in the Morning mug as I type this), but it’s been such a roller coaster of emotion for Greendale fans in these past few weeks: the eye-rolliness of the public in-fighting between Chase & Harmon, the elation of the renewal, the shock of finding out that Harmon wouldn’t be the showrunner next year which was then tempered by announcements from the network that he’d ‘be involved’ to finally, the confirmation from the man himself that he had actually been unceremoniously fired and would most definitely NOT ‘be involved’ next year. For many shows – maybe even most shows – the showrunner isn’t the big story, or even a story at all. Sure, they run the behind-the-scenes, drive story ideas, staff writers’ rooms and work with the network. But in a lot of cases, the audience doesn’t feel personally connected to them, or even necessarily know who they are (outside of tv nerds like us, of course). But I’d argue that Community might be the one show on television that is MOST closely associated with its showrunner. The Community audience is literally comprised almost entirely of tv nerds. We are the only demographic that is regularly tuning in on Thursday (soon to be Friday) nights. We follow Harmon on twitter and tumblr, we read every interview he does, we know the neuroses and inspirations that he used to inform the basis of every character on the show. Community is basically an audio/visual representation of the contents of Dan Harmon’s brain.

So now that he’s no longer going to be running things, or even contributing, what does that mean for the Greendale 7? What does it mean that the network moved the show to Friday nights following WHITNEY for god’s sake? The new showrunners have been brought over from Happy Endings, which is a show that we all love (and it’s arguably the only show on tv that even comes close to Community in terms of the sheer volume of pop culture references). They are more than likely perfectly competent for the job. But, I can’t help but feel like the show will never be the same again (I imagine the cast is feeling pretty bummed about losing their leader too – well, probably not Chevy but does anyone even care if he returns next season?). I’ll be watching next year, but I’ll be approaching the show with cautiously hopeful curiosity rather than the unbridled enthusiasm that I felt just a couple of weeks ago when it got picked up.

Yes to ALL of that.  God, I love this discussion.  It could almost be its own whole post.

Let me first say that Chevy has always been my least favorite part of this show.  On the show, he tends to take over with his Chevy-ness, which doesn’t really fit in, and he always just seems like such a pissy piece of shit (THERE’S a visual) about it in real life.  I hope they do let him go, and hey … if that frees up the budget and keeps the show around a little longer, EVEN BETTER.

Regarding the Friday time slot … here’s the deal.  I think that NBC kept Community on the air to placate the TV nerds and to avoid a total PR nightmare.  (I don’t know why they kept Shitney.)  And let’s face it, NBC is very likely going to have another bunch of flops next season.  So really, ordering 13 episodes of Community to placate a bunch of geeks isn’t that much of a hardship.  Plus, I think that Community may experience some of what Supernatural went through when it moved to Friday, and that’s diehard fans following it there and ratings not really being all that much different.  The good news is, those ratings are much more impressive on Friday than they are on Thursday.  I’m sort of optimistic about this, actually.

Now, regarding Dan Harmon.  I do agree with everything Nicole said, about the show being HIM.  But I also don’t necessarily disagree with the decision to let him to.  God.  I am going to get burned at the stake for this one, but hear me out.  TV is a business.  We all know it, and all of us who love TV psychotically (which, if you’re here …) constantly forget.  And Community has gotten WEIRD.  Now, do I like that?  Yes.  But, was this my favorite season?  No.  It had a lot of really gimmicky episodes, and if you think back to the first season especially, when we all fell in love with the show, those episodes were fewer and further between (and therefore more special and awesome).  I absolutely think that this show can be great and successful when it’s about a bunch of misfits at community college, and not just about being the weirdest show on TV.  Will I miss the weirdness?  Yeah, probably.  But I’m okay with scaling it back, and really, I might even prefer that.

And truly, I think anyone involved with Happy Endings is a great choice to run the show.  Again, looking at it from a business standpoint … Happy Endings shouldn’t even still be on the AIR.  It was BARELY a midseason replacement–it got like six episodes aired out of order starting in the middle of April or some bullshit.  And yet it was AWESOME, people loved it, lobbied for it, and it got popular enough to keep around.  Community could use a little of that magic, and if anyone can do it, I think it’s that team.  So I am pretty sure I’ll be in the minority here, but I actually feel more enthusiasm for next season than I did for the majority of this past one, Donald Glover rapping and shirtless Joel McHale aside.

UPDATE: I just had to jump back in after reading SB’s take to point out that I totally agree with her. When I say that I’m approaching the new season more wary than before, it’s only because what we’re going to get is a mystery at this point. But, I totally have her back on the ‘this show has gotten REALLY FUCKING WEIRD’ point and the fact that it might not be a bad thing to broaden the appeal just a tad (I mostly love the weird, but I can see why a faux Civil War documentary might make the majority of the viewing public change the channel). The new leadership could actually be great (especially if some of the original writers stay on to help keep the tone from shifting too dramatically). So, while I’m a little leery, I’m also hopeful. Community without Dan Harmon will undoubtedly be different, but different doesn’t necessarily mean bad. 

Parks & Recreation

This show is just … incredible.  It’s so good, so funny … consistently HILARIOUS even, and really fearless.  I cannot believe that they went through with Leslie winning that election because OH MY GOD WHAT NOW?

One of my big concerns with this show, and I think long-time hardcore Office fans will know what I’m talking about, is that after such an amazing second season, I was worried that it would tank in the third.  And let me tell you … it did NOT.  I feel like the show has hit a perfect stride–April and Andy are awesome, Ann and Leslie’s friendship KILLS me because of how much it reminds me of me and That Bitch Amy, Ron Swanson continues to be used to excellent effect, Adam Scott is goddamn adorable, and Donna makes me laugh during every second of screen time.  It just blows my mind that there are actually people out there who have never watched this show.  I mean … why?  Seriously, WHY?  Do you hate happiness?  Laughter?  Are you a terrorist?  What’s the deal?

When I was talking about Cougar Town in the Tuesday Shows post, I said that it had the most heart of any sitcom currently on the air. Well, I should have qualified that by saying ‘except for Parks & Recreation’, because this show is one big, beating, bleeding heart that also happens to be one of, if not THE, funniest sitcoms airing right now. A lot of that has to do with my personal hero and spirit animal, Amy Poehler – she is just the best. She has made Leslie Knope one of the most complex and admirable characters on tv, while also letting her be fallible and a total hot mess at times. The supporting characters are all insanely great too – I can’t think of one person who I would be willing to part with…well, maybe just one. LITerally one, if you get my drift. Even Ann, who gets shit on all the time for being a non-entity – to me, she’s essential because her friendship with Leslie is one of my favorite BFF pairings on any show. I love that April is starting to care about, and be good at, her job. I love that Andy is basically a giant labrador puppy. I love Ron for both his insanity and his quiet moments of support with Leslie, April and the rest of the team. I love Ben for being the perfect boyfriend and for looking exactly like Adam Scott. This show is pretty much perfect right now and I wouldn’t change a thing. Except they can always, ALWAYS use more Jean Ralphio. If you haven’t checked it out yet, treat yo self and get caught up over the summer. There will be 22 glorious brand-new episodes awaiting you in the fall.

Alright, folks–that wraps it up for the Thursday shows!  Don’t forget to hit the comments and let me just tell you …  Opinions are like assholes.  Everyone has them and they’re all over the internet.  So there’s no excuse not to comment!

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  • http://twitter.com/phouse1964 Patty Housel

    oooh I am so mad my comment is gone! Dammit.

    It was about loving TVD. And not watching any of these other shows. Bad me.

  • http://twitter.com/clrumbaugh clrumbaugh

    God, I just have so many thoughts on Thursday shows.

    The Vampire Diaries — I’m really glad they finally had Elena turned. She was getting so boring, I started lobbying for them to kill her off about halfway through the season. I know you guys liked the season for the most part, but it just seemed so incredibly long and mostly boring to me. It DID get better later in the season, with the last few episodes, but I agree with you that there… were too many characters. I love the Originals, but mostly I just mean Klaus and Elijah. I’m glad that Klaus isn’t DEAD dead. I’m just as upset that Bonnie ISN’T. I did cry when Alaric died. I’ll watch next season, but I’m not as pumped for it as I was for this one.

    The Office — I don’t know why I watch this show anymore. I LOVED Robert California if only because he is the creepiest creeping creeper to ever creep across my TV screen. But, yeah, he didn’t really work. I didn’t care for Nellie at all either, actually. And the buzz about a Dwight spinoff? Really? I like Dwight, but no. Like SB, that’s where I draw the line. I wish they’d use Mose more. I enjoyed when he showed up to drive the decoy car a couple eps ago.

    Parks & Rec — I didn’t start watching this show until this season, and I absolutely love it. Nicole, your comment about Ben being perfect and looking just like Adam Scott made me LOL. I love Adam Scott. And I love Ben. And Leslie. And Ron. And Andy and April. And everyone. Can’t wait to see where the show will end up going now that the election is over.

    Community — Saved this one for last because I FLOVE this show to death and could talk about it forever. I was so super elated that it actually got renewed for a new season when I was panicking that it was going to get axed mid-way through this one. SB, I agree with you about how firing Dan Harmon was probably for the best. Besides the fact that I heard he’s erratic and that it’s extremely difficult and stressful to work with him, TV IS a business, and to keep a company (or TV show) afloat, you have to purge the elements that are a risk. The network is after ratings. And amazeballs (and frankly, frightening) as Dan Harmon’s mind is, we all know how much the general audience DOESN’T get this show. I don’t necessarily blame them. There are a lot of very high concept episodes, which for tv nerds like us, totally work, but for the casual viewer… they’re not going to get the (perhaps) genius of them. Take just one element like Evil Abed, for instance. Totally worked in the episode in which we were introduced to him (“Remedial Chaos Theory” which is my favorite episode of this show). And he was in the TAG of all places. Sort of a throwaway part of the episode. He’s come back a couple times, but when we see him it’s always in this bending of reality. It’s never quite clear if it’s ACTUALLY happening or if it’s just happening in Abed’s mind. In the season finale, we could actually see the difference here in the quality of his beard (felt vs. “real” hair). But it’s very… out there, and I understand why people don’t like things like that. Not to mention the fact that Evil Abed didn’t really serve a purpose in the finale. I mean, the biggest moment was Jeff’s emotional realization, and Evil Abed had nothing to do with that.

    So, the point I was making is that, yeah, it’s gotten a little weird — in a totally GOOD way for me, but not so much for network heads, I guess. And I understand why the network is nervous. And with Harmon’s behavior in the writer’s room (or so I hear), and his public outing of his problems with Chase (which I admit I don’t really understand), I agree that their decision was a good BUSINESS decision. Y’all are right: the show won’t be the same, but SB, I’m with you. I’m excited to see what the new showrunners can do. AND it’s going to be leading into Grimm on Friday nights, so… my two favorite NBC shows in one night?! I’m a happy Human Being.

  • http://twitter.com/Nicole_OCTV Nicole

    Remedial Chaos Theory is hands-down my favorite episode too. So perfect. Followed closely by Conspiracy Theories and Interior Design (season 2 with the wierd non-night school and the introduction of the blanket fort).

  • http://twitter.com/clrumbaugh clrumbaugh

    YES! Conspiracy Theories. Another high concept episode, but so so so fucking good! I flove the blanket fort episodes. The first one was great (and had some Jeff/Annie stuff, which… I know he’s like supposed to be close to 15 years older than she is, but… I still really enjoy them together haha). The second one that was like a Civil War documentary. GOD! This show.

  • http://twitter.com/onlymystory Melissa

    I could go on for ages about the Vampire Diaries but I won’t except to say two things. One, if questions are allowed at the ATX Festival panel, I fully intend to ask Julie how the Originals will be better integrated next year without making it feel like they’ve taken over. Two, there were a couple new writers this year and one of them comes from True Blood. Several of my most hated episodes this season came from that particular writer. Ugh. But yes, I can’t wait to see Elena as a vampire and to see how that plays out. I love the idea of her still trying to be a decent person but unlike Caroline who adapted pretty well to the bunny diet, I’d love to see Elena be more into compelling humans. It’s not like she’s had a problem with that as a human.

    I too am kind of torn on Community. I love the show but I haven’t been able to get a single friend hooked on it. And even with my knowledge of pop culture, there are still episodes that leave me going WTF. Like the recent video game ep. It was well done & I was very impressed but I wasn’t able to get into it. & like with the Harmon thing, I do think NBC was pretty shifty about it (but like when are they not) but at the same time, for 3 years we’ve heard them telling Harmon to make the show more accessible. Which isn’t THAT hard to do. Or at least it wasn’t that hard before this season. & I had to stop watching cast interviews because it just got really obvious that as much as they love each other (except Chevy) they were tiptoeing around their feelings about working on the set. Which is all to say that while I love Community in all its weirdness, I definitely understand the network’s decision. And I think there are few comedies better than Happy Endings to draw new showrunners from. So I guess I don’t think we’ll have the same show as before, but it might still be a really good show. Sort of like pre-American Idiot Green Day vs post. Both are good but very different bands.

    I don’t really watch other Thurs. comedies. However I fell in love with Scandal and I still haven’t given up on Grey’s Anatomy (Secret Circle is on my catch up over the summer list). I really liked that Scandal did a short season (though it needed a couple more episodes to be perfect) and that its getting a short season (13 eps) next year. There are just a lot of shows that do much better as short seasons. Or as I was talking with a friend on twitter, a lot of shows would do well to be more like ABC Family shows with 2 mini-seasons per full season. It just forces tighter storytelling. Which is kind of a tangent but just suffice to say that I thought it worked for Scandal & could work for more shows.

    Grey’s Anatomy I’m royally pissed at right now because they killed the Caroline of the show and I keep bawling my eyes out. But if you get past the unlikeliness of different scenarios & some of the insanity, the character development is pretty damn good. And I haven’t hated the whole Owen/Christina storyline as much as I thought. There hasn’t been an easy reconciliation & I like that they haven’t made Owen to be so much of a demonized character. He made a mistake but Christina made mistakes and they may not work it out but it’s not the teen drama that was Meredith/Derek early on. & I liked that Meredith finally mentioned the fact that C/O got married fast. Because they so did & considering how differently they view certain things (like children) that’s come back to hurt them. It just works. & I have a whole blog post to do about the April stuff because for once a show is handling that well and not just throwing in a “Jesus virgin” storyline as though every network has a quota.

    The Big Bang Theory too is one that I’m keeping up on but does anyone else feel like that show is just throwing out episodes and has no idea what an overarching storyline is anymore? The episodes are funny but it just seems like they lost any semblance of an ongoing story. Plus I swear if they keep making Penny a commitment phobe, I’m going to kill someone.

  • Sarah

    Community–so totally agree with you both! My sister and I were talking the other day and she mentioned that in theory, there could (smartly) only be four years total in the first place, based on the college experience. Obviously shows have done other things (SBTB: The New Class, etc.), but it stretches credibility, even with these characters and their academic skills, to keep them at a community college for more than four years.
    Like y’all, i’ll be watching on Fridays (and carefully not watching a single minute of Whitney), and I’ll be interested to see just how different it is. I think the actors/actresses have a lot of chops, and it wouldn’t surprise me if they can still convey their characters. Also, if the same writers are sticking around (not sure about this?), then there will be continuity (as much as there ever is on TV), and probably more of a storyline and less one-off episodes, though also like you all…I’ve loved many of them. I liked the article by Ken Levine about how it’s possible Dan Harmon was less than easy to work with and that the network would have easily said “see you later, dude”.
    Moving on… Parks and Rec–I don’t even know!! IT IS JUST SO GOOD! I haven’t watched any of The Office for a few years, but even just reading what you all are saying and thinking about it compared to P&R…it’s just crazy how good Parks and Rec is compared to it and compared to anything at all, really. They somehow managed to successfully incorporate the personal lives of their characters outside of the P&R office in a way that The Office never quite did. Credit Michael Schur with that, I guess!
    Bones was also on Thursdays for awhile, so that was sort of my jam when it was.

  • Eric Pharand

    Community: I think I only like the high-concept episodes.
    The Office: I agree
    P&R: The election storyline dragged.
    30 Rock: Good for the jokes but not the plot.
    TSC: I wouldn’t have been upset it it was cancelled in the fall or winter. The storylines should have been tighter more intertwined. The kids should have had individual magic most of the season. Gelled nicely by the last quarter.
    TVD: Worst season. The first half was much better. I’m probably going to watch a couple episodes next season but maybe not.
    Person of Interest: Action, drama, comedy, ethics of technology, NYPD, CIA, FBI, an all-seeing Machine. Great writing, acting, plotting. What’s not to love?
    Awake: Great combination of family drama, police procedural, and mystery
    Scandal: Not shot well. Soundtrack hits you on the head. Excessively anti-rightwing. Good plotting. Some good acting and writing. Good chemistry.
    The Mentalist: Bored and disappointed with Red John storyline. Grace getting over getting betrayed/anger issues was good. Couldn’t care less about Wanye’s wife and kid. Cho and Summer was a great storyline. I’d say I’ll miss Wainwright but we hardly saw him.
    The Firm was disappointing (quit after 12 episodes) but Mitch is an awesome lawyer.
    The Big Bang Theory: Very good. Season is uneven in quality. Amy is mostly miss and weird. Bernadette/Howard romance is boring and annoying. Raj not talking to women unless drunk is excessively drawn out.
    Charlie’s Angels: Disappointing. I only watched the first 2.
    Touch: Premiere was excessively contrived. I didn’t bother watching more.
    Up All Night: Will Arnet was all right in the premiere but no one else was so I didn’t watch anymore.
    Prime Suspect: I barely made it through the premiere.

  • mayadolid

    Community: I agree that the high-concept and homage episodes need to be less. I thought their Ocean’s 11 episode was kind of a failure but the Dean’s line about asking if someone had paid his rent while he was held hostage had me laughing so hard, I had pause. Because I ALWAYS think about that shit. I’m always the one watching big budget blockbuster movies where shit blows up and then wondering if the people’s whose cars were just demolished by The Hulk have insurance to cover it and how they file their claims or whether SHIELD pays for it.
    ….back on topic: I hope Happy Endings doesn’t suffer in quality with the lose of those two writers going to Community.

    The Office: Ugh, it’s gone from making me sad to making me angry that it is pathetic and unfunny.
    P&R: I just don’t LOVE this show as much as others do. I don’t think it’s laugh out loud funny, I find it more cute and charming. I like all the characters but it doesn’t make me laugh, just amuses me. It’s fun to watch so I’m going to shut up now. I will say that I do LOVE the shit out of Jean Ralphio who needs to be on the show more. And I’ll say it: Rob Lowe’s character is terrible. Chris is unfunny, a one-note joke that has been stretched out for way too long and he needs to go.

    30 Rock: The jokes keep coming and they’re all usually good so despite the fact that the plots are usually nonexistent or poorly constructed and the finale with Kim Jong Il lobbying for a Jack/Liz coupling (no, no! no portmanteau, don’t do it!) has me kind of worried, I enjoyed this season. I continue to not understand Queen of Jordan (I don’t know if I’m dumb or it’s dumb) and I really hope things work out with Liz and Criss (love James Marsden and he’s great on the show)

    Can we talk about how much I want to marry Revenge? Oh…this is for Thursday shows. Uh…

    TVD: Okay. The only thing of interest for me this whole season was Elena becoming a vampire. I really don’t care about Team anyone and I’m getting tired of the originals.

    Up All Night: I wanted to like this but I still get through the whole season. There’s just something not compelling about it. I think it’s too cool and laidback for its own good.

    That’s all I watch on Thursday.

    Off-topic: Can we get someone to start watching and recapping Girls on HBO? I need a forum to express my love-hate relationship with that show and every character on it. And it’s the only show I’m currently watching until Pretty Little Liars returns in June.

  • http://twitter.com/EllieTheMod Eleanor Palimore

    REALLY annoyed that Secret Circle was cancelled, because in the last episode it suddenly got AWESOME and I wanted to meet all the other Balcoin psycho kids! But Cassie really annoyed me… I mean, I never even watched Life UneXpected, but yeah, something about Britt Robertson, maybe? Or maybe it’s just Cassie. I loved Diana and Faye and Melissa and Jake and Adam (whenever he wasn’t around Cassie). And Grant. Adorable, clueless, sweet Grant. (He totally would’ve died.) It didn’t get really compelling until the last two eps… and then cancellation. Bummer.

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